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	<title>Comments on: Open Source Database solutions part I</title>
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	<description>Thoughtful and sometimes snarky perspectives on nonprofit technology</description>
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		<title>By: Guy S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

There are also some more esoteric Open Source Databases (XML, Object Oriented, Embedded)

I have listed some of in www.eoslist.com (Database section)

Guy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>There are also some more esoteric Open Source Databases (XML, Object Oriented, Embedded)</p>
<p>I have listed some of in <a href="http://www.eoslist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eoslist.com</a> (Database section)</p>
<p>Guy</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Murrain</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/01/open-source-dat.html/comment-page-1#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Murrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, much, for that info, Mike. You are certainly correct, in that nonprofits would much appreciate those features that you mention. It will be interesting to see how the open source community develops around Ingres. I worry a lot about that sort of thing for nonprofits - finding others that are also using a specific project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, much, for that info, Mike. You are certainly correct, in that nonprofits would much appreciate those features that you mention. It will be interesting to see how the open source community develops around Ingres. I worry a lot about that sort of thing for nonprofits - finding others that are also using a specific project.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michelle, 
You might want to take another look at Ingres. Its move to becoming an open source DB with a development/community approach similar to MySQL, and 30 years of attentiveness to the Enterprise customer makes it a great resource for Non profits.
I used to work for a non-profit and I found a few things that are typically not mentioned as key attributes for non-profits in database choice:
 1. Ease of recovery from standard crashes (e.g. hardware, network, application server...).

2. "Invisibility" -- by this I mean how much it takes to maintain the database, do backups, how much does it need to be "tuned," etc..
In working with most nonprofits, I've found that they have a difficult time swallowing the fact that they have to lay out a big fat licensing fee, spend valuable cash on a vertical app or custom development and THEN have to hire highly priced experts or be at the mercy of volunteer DBAs... stuff fraught with disaster and frustration.
I've found Ingres to be the kind of database that "just works" on Linux and Windows (as well as lots of non-nonprofit platforms like HP-UX and AIX)... not just for developers, but for companies that are left holding the bag long after they're gone.

Regards,

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michelle, <br />
You might want to take another look at Ingres. Its move to becoming an open source DB with a development/community approach similar to MySQL, and 30 years of attentiveness to the Enterprise customer makes it a great resource for Non profits.<br />
I used to work for a non-profit and I found a few things that are typically not mentioned as key attributes for non-profits in database choice:<br />
 1. Ease of recovery from standard crashes (e.g. hardware, network, application server&#8230;).</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Invisibility&#8221; &#8212; by this I mean how much it takes to maintain the database, do backups, how much does it need to be &#8220;tuned,&#8221; etc..<br />
In working with most nonprofits, I&#8217;ve found that they have a difficult time swallowing the fact that they have to lay out a big fat licensing fee, spend valuable cash on a vertical app or custom development and THEN have to hire highly priced experts or be at the mercy of volunteer DBAs&#8230; stuff fraught with disaster and frustration.<br />
I&#8217;ve found Ingres to be the kind of database that &#8220;just works&#8221; on Linux and Windows (as well as lots of non-nonprofit platforms like HP-UX and AIX)&#8230; not just for developers, but for companies that are left holding the bag long after they&#8217;re gone.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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