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	<title>Comments on: Drupal, Joomla and Plone! Oh my!</title>
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		<title>By: Amanda Bee</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/04/drupal-joomla-a.html/comment-page-1#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on Plone is that it is really, really powerful and ZOPE is &lt;i&gt;nothing&lt;/i&gt; like Apache or PHP or MySQL. If you are a programmer who likes to complain about how PHP isn't really object oriented, you might be in a different place than I am, but I found that I couldn't seem to get my head around an entirely new webserver framework.

One thing that worries me about drupal is the pace of change, and the lack of a long term support release. I haven't looked closely at the others in this regard, but if you're setting up websites for other people, you want to be able to tell them that there'll be security patches available for some decent length of time.

I know too many folks who are stuck with Drupal 4.5 sites and can't upgrade because they have a lot of flexinode content. 

Meanwhile, PoppyPhoto is right, there does need to be a lot more "what are these content types" writing, at least about Drupal (I dunno what is out there for Joomla).

I keep a little tech support blog on Mayfirst[0] and I'm always game to answer questions like. That might be my next post, "What are all these content types and what do I do with them?"

--Amanda

[0] http://mayfirst.org/blog/81
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on Plone is that it is really, really powerful and ZOPE is <i>nothing</i> like Apache or PHP or MySQL. If you are a programmer who likes to complain about how PHP isn&#8217;t really object oriented, you might be in a different place than I am, but I found that I couldn&#8217;t seem to get my head around an entirely new webserver framework.</p>
<p>One thing that worries me about drupal is the pace of change, and the lack of a long term support release. I haven&#8217;t looked closely at the others in this regard, but if you&#8217;re setting up websites for other people, you want to be able to tell them that there&#8217;ll be security patches available for some decent length of time.</p>
<p>I know too many folks who are stuck with Drupal 4.5 sites and can&#8217;t upgrade because they have a lot of flexinode content. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, PoppyPhoto is right, there does need to be a lot more &#8220;what are these content types&#8221; writing, at least about Drupal (I dunno what is out there for Joomla).</p>
<p>I keep a little tech support blog on Mayfirst[0] and I&#8217;m always game to answer questions like. That might be my next post, &#8220;What are all these content types and what do I do with them?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Amanda</p>
<p>[0] <a href="http://mayfirst.org/blog/81" rel="nofollow">http://mayfirst.org/blog/81</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/04/drupal-joomla-a.html/comment-page-1#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My choice of drupal is biased by a preference for using postgresql databases over mysql.

I've found the drupal community more approachable than Joomla (easier to start contributing).

Plone i found slow to respond to patches, but that was a while ago now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My choice of drupal is biased by a preference for using postgresql databases over mysql.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found the drupal community more approachable than Joomla (easier to start contributing).</p>
<p>Plone i found slow to respond to patches, but that was a while ago now.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/04/drupal-joomla-a.html/comment-page-1#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michelle,
So most of my experience has been with Joomla, and 1.5 is looking AWESOME... I'm just waiting for Compasspoint to come out with their new manual...
[and they got rid of the word 'mambot' completely!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michelle,<br />
So most of my experience has been with Joomla, and 1.5 is looking AWESOME&#8230; I&#8217;m just waiting for Compasspoint to come out with their new manual&#8230;<br />
[and they got rid of the word 'mambot' completely!]</p>
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		<title>By: Photopoppy</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/04/drupal-joomla-a.html/comment-page-1#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Photopoppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, the install is dead easy.

I'm revamping my website in drupal after trying out both drupal and joomla (both available on my web host) and deciding that drupal looked easier and had more easily found plugins for what I wanted to do.

And we use plone for a lot of things in the organization I work for now. So I've poked a bit at all three of them.

And NOWHERE have I been able to find a good, basic, user-oriented "what are these content types and what do I do with them?" area. Eventually, I might know them well enough to write one, but at the rate my spare time keeps going right now, I don't hold out a lot of hope for intense blogging time in my future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, the install is dead easy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m revamping my website in drupal after trying out both drupal and joomla (both available on my web host) and deciding that drupal looked easier and had more easily found plugins for what I wanted to do.</p>
<p>And we use plone for a lot of things in the organization I work for now. So I&#8217;ve poked a bit at all three of them.</p>
<p>And NOWHERE have I been able to find a good, basic, user-oriented &#8220;what are these content types and what do I do with them?&#8221; area. Eventually, I might know them well enough to write one, but at the rate my spare time keeps going right now, I don&#8217;t hold out a lot of hope for intense blogging time in my future.</p>
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