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	<title>Comments on: NTC Summary, and Nonprofit Technology Consulting 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/04/ntc-summary-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup,I do agree with David, there, for the most part - I think it's an important way to think about content right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup,I do agree with David, there, for the most part - I think it&#8217;s an important way to think about content right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Kanter</title>
		<link>http://www.zenofnptech.org/2007/04/ntc-summary-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Kanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle:
I wonder what you think of David G's framing of the content model issue.
http://socialsource.blogspot.com/2007/04/content-quality-money.html
This resonated for me:
"Content is no longer a value generator... it is a consumer capturer. You need to capture the consumer with your free content and then extract value through alternate channels... ads, products, services, memberships, etc."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle:<br />
I wonder what you think of David G&#8217;s framing of the content model issue.<br />
<a href="http://socialsource.blogspot.com/2007/04/content-quality-money.html" rel="nofollow">http://socialsource.blogspot.com/2007/04/content-quality-money.html</a><br />
This resonated for me:<br />
&#8220;Content is no longer a value generator&#8230; it is a consumer capturer. You need to capture the consumer with your free content and then extract value through alternate channels&#8230; ads, products, services, memberships, etc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Carey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought provoking.

Recently the language difference jumped out at me while advising an emerging nonprofit on tools and techniques for client management software.  

The previous sentence is a clumsy attempt to use langage from both parties in the conversation.  We have to do better than this.

I'll be reworking your technology questions to fit my work in evaluative thinking: outcomes measurement for improving services - not just ticking boxes for the funder.

This is a tough area, we keep calling it a technology issue, but the issue is change.  

Looking forward to more comments and posts in this vein.

Catherine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking.</p>
<p>Recently the language difference jumped out at me while advising an emerging nonprofit on tools and techniques for client management software.  </p>
<p>The previous sentence is a clumsy attempt to use langage from both parties in the conversation.  We have to do better than this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be reworking your technology questions to fit my work in evaluative thinking: outcomes measurement for improving services - not just ticking boxes for the funder.</p>
<p>This is a tough area, we keep calling it a technology issue, but the issue is change.  </p>
<p>Looking forward to more comments and posts in this vein.</p>
<p>Catherine</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Murrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Murrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, totally - I think that schools have been on that same track, and not asking themselves the same questions. In some ways, it's even more of an issue, since much of school technology budgets are directed toward the students, whereas for the vast majority of nonprofits, most of the technology budgets are not directed toward the people they serve. 

I very much look forward to your re-emergence from the IT wilderness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, totally - I think that schools have been on that same track, and not asking themselves the same questions. In some ways, it&#8217;s even more of an issue, since much of school technology budgets are directed toward the students, whereas for the vast majority of nonprofits, most of the technology budgets are not directed toward the people they serve. </p>
<p>I very much look forward to your re-emergence from the IT wilderness!</p>
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		<title>By: The Bamboo Project Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bamboo Project Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NPTech Consulting 2.0&lt;/strong&gt;

Michelle Murrain of Zen and the Art of Nonprofit Technology is asking some thought-provoking questions about what she's calling Nonprofit Technology Consulting 2.0:What would it be like if we could help nonprofits with the following: Asking whether tec...
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<p>Michelle Murrain of Zen and the Art of Nonprofit Technology is asking some thought-provoking questions about what she&#8217;s calling Nonprofit Technology Consulting 2.0:What would it be like if we could help nonprofits with the following: Asking whether tec&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin J. Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin J. Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 06:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Michelle, those are *exactly* the questions that I want schools to start asking themselves.  

Schools have all these legal and political mandates to get this kind of network, and increase their computer:student ratio, and so on.  But I have yet to find a school that has *any* idea how to spend money on technology to actually educate students.  The best I've seen is schools that can reasonably provide technology support for staff and students' work: "productivity" applications and web access, basically.

I'm looking forward to my return from the wilderness of IT to Stuff That Matters.  It's nice to see you walking a similar path before me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Michelle, those are *exactly* the questions that I want schools to start asking themselves.  </p>
<p>Schools have all these legal and political mandates to get this kind of network, and increase their computer:student ratio, and so on.  But I have yet to find a school that has *any* idea how to spend money on technology to actually educate students.  The best I&#8217;ve seen is schools that can reasonably provide technology support for staff and students&#8217; work: &#8220;productivity&#8221; applications and web access, basically.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to my return from the wilderness of IT to Stuff That Matters.  It&#8217;s nice to see you walking a similar path before me.</p>
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